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Post by Puffdaddy Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:34 pm

Just purchased a fluval 405 do I need to run anything else to get biological, Chemical and mechanical filtration. Or is that all I need?

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Post by Yeti Wed 05 Oct 2011, 11:37 pm

In a salt water or fresh water tank?
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Post by Puffdaddy Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:00 am

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Post by Bryan Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:08 am

your live rock and sand will be the biggest form of biological filtration. The cannister will aid in that aspect but it will be more of the mechanical side of things. If you are running a large bio load, then I highly recommend running a protien skimmer. You can get by without one, but it wont hurt to have that added help. Your # 1 fight with the cannister is making sure you keep it clean, they work very well when properly maintained, but if you slack on your mainteance then it will be the death of you .
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Post by Yeti Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:12 am

Hands you over to the Dark Lords, though I know they're going to ask you size of tank, number of fish and probably pounds of LR.
I'll watch with interest to see the opinions given.
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Post by Bryan Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:16 am

AW come on, we aren't that bad. Suspect

I will leave the questions out of it until you start to ask about one piece of equip. over another . Thats when more detailed info is needed
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Post by Puffdaddy Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:28 am

10 fish. 55gal. 55lbs LR. A skimmer.

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Post by Puffdaddy Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:30 am

And coral bed, do I need to switch to sand?

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Post by Bryan Thu 06 Oct 2011, 12:44 am

crushed coral is known to be a waste trap unless you vaccum it like gravel. Sand isnt a must , but its thought to be better than the crushed coral
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Post by matt_longview Thu 06 Oct 2011, 9:06 am

Since rhe surface of the crushed coral is broken up, it allows stuff to fall down to where your clean up crew can't get it. Thats why it needs vacuumed. Same seal with cannister filters in a reef. It pulls that nasty stuff out of the water put then traps it in a little space where clean up crew can't get to it, so it must be replaced often. They can and do work though, and i've even saw where people will connect a reactor to the outlet and run phos through it also.
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Post by DonnieP Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:40 am

One of the nicest reef tanks I ever had, one of the first, used a magnum 350 canister filter hooked to a sloping bottom undergravel filter. I used the filter with no gravel or sand just had the liverock sitting on it. This was before we knew the need for pods in the tank. This was the cleanest tank I ever had, the canister filter is a high maintenance filter but keeps a tank very clean. If you use a canister it needs to be cleaned thoroughly at least weekly. I still use a magnum for ditritus removal ever now and then.
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Post by Yeti Fri 07 Oct 2011, 2:31 am

OK guys, I'm going for a crushed coral and sand mix, I like the blend of the two together and to me it looks realistic, I guess I will be working about a 50:50 mix in the tank, as I'm planning on moving some of the crushed coral down to thin cover the sump base where the LR will be.
I was planning on doing a "waft" of the tank base as I syphoned on water changes. Substrate should be under half inch deep, I would hate to have to dig the syphon in and lose life from the tank, what do you think?
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Post by J.Davis Fri 07 Oct 2011, 8:19 am

I wouldn't use the Fluval to move the sand.. LOL. Moving cycled LS into the fuge is good. Better would be some "Used" sand from another tank... but only to accelerate the process.
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