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Up and running 45G

Post by taimoortwm on Fri 21 Oct 2011, 11:02 pm

I got this bow front set up. I plan to connect it to my 75g aggressive,but it will be a reef eventually.
what kind of fish should I get?
Any suggestions?
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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by Mcreefer on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:14 am

I think the mandarine goby is my all time fav. Also the Heniochus Black & White Butterflyfish. Thouse are 2 great 0% aggro fish. They both love swimming around and are mostly easy to keep.

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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by Yeti on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 1:21 am

I'd love a Mandarine Goby, but the demand for fresh pods is something I would be concerned about, maybe once my sump is really established I may be able to support one, or eventually put in a 20 Tall sump, which may then create sufficient pod migration to keep one happily.
A 70's teenager, I just have to love the tie dye effect of these fish.

As long as it gets on with my Orange Spotted Goby, I saw this guys eyebrows, and just fell in love with him.
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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by Mcreefer on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 2:36 pm

I've trained 4 of them to except frozen Roa, Or mysis. You need to start with live baby mysis. If you want I'll write the instructions on here but you can have them on pellets even within 3 weeks.

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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by ritter678 on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 5:48 pm

Clowns
Chromis
Bangaii Cardinal
Goby
Royal Gramma
Firefish
Blenny
Jawfish (if you have the substrate for it)
Reef safe wrasse
Hawkfish (if you don't have shrimp)
Dwarf Angel (if you have corals that you don't mind being picked at)

Just make sure to research any fish you get before you buy it if you don't know what it is or what is needed to keep it alive.
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Post by taimoortwm on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 6:27 pm

I got the bicolor angelfish, and the website says he is reef safe. do you consider as a mistake I made Rolling Eyes ?
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Post by ritter678 on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 7:04 pm

taimoortwm wrote:I got the bicolor angelfish, and the website says he is reef safe. do you consider as a mistake I made Rolling Eyes ?

Not a mistake at all. People try angels out all the time. It just depends on the fish if it will nip or not. Most nipping is harmless but it can be a pain if you don't like to see your corals retracted all the time. If the fish behaves then you are lucky, if not then it's up to you to decide if you prefer the fish or polyp extension on your corals. I had a flame angel that nipped my sps so I moved it to a tank with soft corals and lps, so far no nipping in the different tank.
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Post by taimoortwm on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 7:13 pm

How about If I put him to the my agressive tank, if he behave bad?
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Post by Siberman on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 7:42 pm

Mcreefer wrote:I've trained 4 of them to except frozen Roa, Or mysis. You need to start with live baby mysis. If you want I'll write the instructions on here but you can have them on pellets even within 3 weeks.

I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd start a new thread on this. Most sites recommend a well-aged tank of at least 100 gallons to support a mandarin or scooter blenny (assuming they will only eat pods). I would love to keep one in a smaller aquarium.
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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by ritter678 on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 8:04 pm

taimoortwm wrote:How about If I put him to the my agressive tank, if he behave bad?

Depends on the fish in your aggressive tank. Just add corals slowly and see how the angel reacts to them.


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Mcreefer wrote:I've trained 4 of them to except frozen Roa, Or mysis. You need to start with live baby mysis. If you want I'll write the instructions on here but you can have them on pellets even within 3 weeks.

Most sites recommend a well-aged tank of at least 100 gallons to support a mandarin or scooter blenny (assuming they will only eat pods). I would love to keep one in a smaller aquarium.

Doesn't matter if they eat frozen or prepared foods. They still need a constant supply. Even if you train a mandarin to eat pellets you'd have to drop pellets in there all day and get them down to the mandarin before the other fish get them. It might help to sustain a mandarin for a little while in a smaller tank but they still need a constant supply of pods. Can you keep a mandarin in a 45? Maybe, with it crammed full of liverock and a refugium loaded with rock and chaeto, I don't know for sure.

Mcreefer wrote:Also the Heniochus Black & White Butterflyfish.

I took this pic of Heniochus at Sea World. Awesome fish but they are probably 8-10 inches long and not counting the big banner fin. Maybe a little to large for a 45 and not considered reef safe.
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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by matt_longview on Sat 22 Oct 2011, 8:32 pm

I trained a mandarin in my 29g for quite awhile. He was eating mysis and brine. Whenever it would start to look a little skinny I'd hatch some baby brine shrimp. It was a beautiful fish and while I think it would have stayed alive for longer than a year... and never would have died from starvation... I thought it's lifespan would be shortened because it was in my tank eating mysis and brine instead of in a proper aquarium eating pods. I ended up giving it to a friend with a larger tank. They can be trained, and they are amazing fish... but I still think it's best for that fish to go into a large system.
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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by Mcreefer on Sun 23 Oct 2011, 12:33 am

Ok well o guess since the butter fly fish I had was only 3 inchs it must have been 3 Inchs it must have been a mutany so ignore that. I guess I must just be insane. And since I had madarines trained on pellets I must be a fucking idiot so ignore that to.

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Re: Up and running 45G

Post by Siberman on Mon 24 Oct 2011, 7:51 pm

Mcreefer wrote:Ok well ...

People on discussion forums often disagree. No reason to get bent. Rolling Eyes Post your evidence and convince your opponents. Wink
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Post by matt_longview on Mon 24 Oct 2011, 8:11 pm

I don't think you're an idiot at all. I just couldn't keep up with mine well enough. I was actually agreeing that a mandarin could be trained to eat simple foods. I was just saying that in my opinion my 29g was too small for him. A 29g that had a full sump/fuge would be a different tank for sure. His 45g... if connected to a 75g... would likely contain quite a bit of pods as well.

No hate from me Mcreefer! :-)
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